I'm wondering if it's rude. (WoW)

[silverthorne]

Got Arianthe up a few more levels (alternate hunter--I'm using her as a guinea pig, more or less, so that my main with Ken's character 'works' better when we play.

Wound up standing aside while a small group of players stormed the same place I was trying to complete a quest, which is no big deal. But when I got to the boss fight for that particular task, they stormed ahead of me, killed the guy...and then stuck around to kill him about five more times. I went ahead and parked myself at that point and just watched. Considering the range of levels they had, I think the higher levels were trying to get the low levels up to speed. Which was fine, right up to the point where they more or less parked themselves right on the boss.

So I kept waiting. All but one of them finally moved off (the lowest level one), and then 'she' whispers 'Do you need help?'. I said 'No ma'am, just waiting my turn.'

She apologized and moved off, accidentally set the boss off again, but didn't fight back, so I went ahead and attacked and got his head, then made for the exit.

Saw the whole group again back at the guy who gives the quest, got my reward, moved on back to the 'city', and started selling my loot. One of the higher level ones (gorgeous black tauren) followed me in, roared a few times, and then offered a duel (which I missed, because I was concentrating on the seller's list, and not the little strip of beige with the accept and decline buttons). He took it off, though, went back outside.

I finished up, took my own character back outside, and then signed out.

I'm not upset, but it was a little trying to work around them. And I wasn't up for a duel, either, so I'm kinda glad I missed my chance at it.

But I also wonder if I was unintentionally rude.

ETA: Also, someone kept killing the ginger cats tonight. I kept finding little orange corpses around the towers. :(

Comments

[del-the-psycho.livejournal.com]

They're the assholes, actually, and as a hunter, you would have been well within your rights to fire off a serpent sting right at that boss the second it spawned and thusly tagged the kill. I'm curious of who/what you were going after, because if it's a belf lowbie quest kill, what on earth would they be farming it for?

I'm glad they at least gave you a whisper to see if you wanted in on the action, regardless of if you accepted or declined. Normally, the truely polite/nice thing to do is, if you see someone who's clearly after the same quest target as you, you join a group together so you both get the credit and no one's left sitting and waiting like you were. Just don't come to expect that kind of behaviour, because doing the nice thing doesn't occur to people a lot of the time.

Also, ignore duels if you're not into that. There's no point to them and people tend to be pests about it.

Also also, on the subject of cautionary duel tales, never ever accept a duel from a lvl 30ish priest when you're in an elevated area. They just want to mind control you and fling your ass over the edge.

[silverthorne.livejournal.com]

Yeah. That's part of the reason most of my unclaimed alts are on Cenarion Circle (RP); I'm really trying to avoid PvP unless it's a necessity for something.

Good to know I wasn't being rude. The Tauren dude was all over the place; I watched him challenge and then fight the girl who asked if I needed help before the other stuff happened. It was interesting to see him change shapes, though.

I was doing the second quest from Lanthan; killing Felendren the banished. Obviously, I'm not very far with Arianthe just yet. XD.

Making note: No duels with mid-level priests while standing on the edge of high cliffs. Gotcha. :)

[leaveoutalltherest]

...see, that's why I can't play that game. I'd be hunting for whoever killed the cats.

[silverthorne.livejournal.com]

It makes me want to make every single cat on the island a vanity pet so I could keep them safe. ^^; Of course, the island would lose a lot of its charm if I did that, because then I'd have to bank most of them.

What's sad is that I heard one of the cats get hit (it made that startled 'WTF? OW!' noises cats make). By the time I got oriented and found the body, though, the killer was already long gone. :/

[http://users.livejournal.com/_geekie_/]

Yeah, they were kinda breaking the unspoken etiquette surrounding spawns - after the second time tagging they should have invited you to a group or NOT used a quest spawn for quick XP.

Duels are dumb imo. I very, very rarely do them because WOW isn't a game balanced around 1v1 (or PVP for that matter, but that is a controversial subject for another thread entirely). I almost always refuse duel requests from strangers and will repeatedly refuse them. I mean, what do they prove, really?
It's not as though you get honor from them.

[silverthorne.livejournal.com]

Yeah. I backed off because they had a range of player levels from 2-10, and I figured they were trying to get the exp for the belfs in the group that had to complete the quest. I also got the impression the 'older' ones were teaching the younger because there were some duels before that that I saw them do, so I didn't have a problem with standing aside for a kill or two so that they could do that.

But then they did it again. And again. And again. And by then, I was 'okay, people, at least go kill some spirits while I get a shot at this, rather than get pissy and snag a shot out from under your ass'.

And like I told Del upthread, I'm not all that interested in dueling. I hear there are some PvP instances you might want to get into for certain armor and the like, but in general, I'm not into the whole 'RAWR I AM SHE-DEVIL, HEAR ME ROAR!!!!!!!' thing. I don;t need to prove my e-peen size.

[http://users.livejournal.com/_geekie_/]

I'm not fond of the state of WOW PVP. Granted, the older system wasn't a perfect one - it required a lot of time to get ranks and such - but someone with poor gear and decent knowledge of their class wasn't such an easy kill. My rogue had greens on when I decided to try to get him to Grand Marshall, and I was able to get in quite a few kills by choosing my battles carefully. Granted, I never got him to GM - not even close - but I did have a lot of fun.

Now PVP is extremely gear dependent, which requires basically that you suck it up and go be a target dummy for a few days or weeks until you start getting the resilience gear. On my holy priest, for example, I spent some days being repeatedly killed by people who clearly had no concept of playing their class - they just happened to have high resilience gear and thought that farming a clothie for honor would be fun. When I want to PVP, I want to go out there and pewpewpew some players, not spend time dead because of a fake stat that is on a class of gear almost exclusive to PVP instances imo.

Granted, they've made some small changes and put some PVP related pieces in PVE instances and you can turn in PVE gear tokens for PVP gear, but these things are much, much harder to come by - you're competing with 5-25 people for these things rather than taking your lumps and being repeatedly killed by some rogue who just happens to have season three gear, yet can't seem to kill a priest in two shots.

Rant off. Sorry, I'll clean up after myself. >.>

[silverthorne.livejournal.com]

NP. I mean, I started it by ranting myself. ;)

I see a lot of discussion about 'greens' and 'blues'. Is that just a ranking thing, or does the armor remain green and blue?

...as for the whole 'you need the right gear', that sucks. I'd rather be able to figure out how to survive something even if I'm in my underwear, rather than just have to farm for gear. I mean, heck, I don't mind better gear, but I also tend to be the type of player that doesn't concentrate on that beyond 'does this improve something I want?' if I happen to chance on a better bit of equipment. Farming for supplies that'll keep you healthy is one thing. Having to make sure every single piece you're wearing is up to snuff so you don't die...I think that tales away from the joy of figuring how to handle a situation.

[http://users.livejournal.com/_geekie_/]

By the way...

I'll have to post the details in my journal, but to make a long story short, I may need to move my Horde level 70s off of Ravencrest/Dragonblight to avoid someone I'm related to (...grr) who wants to return to the game and I'd rather not play with. Which server would you say you spend the most time on, Hordeside?

[silverthorne.livejournal.com]

Well, the redhead belf I'm talking about on this post is on Cenarion Circle, and the Draenei I rolled up for you on Dragonblight I haven't even touched yet (Alliance), so I'd have no problem deleting her off Dragonblight and moving her elsewhere. :)

[http://users.livejournal.com/_geekie_/]

Oh, I intend to stay on Dragonblight Alliance. I just don't want my Horde toons anywhere where my brother in law can use them as an arguing point. Hence, putting them on another server.

[silverthorne.livejournal.com]

Well, like I said, I have Arianthe as a hunter on Cenarion Circle.

I also have a paladin version of her I haven't used yet on Zangarmarsh. :)

[silverthorne.livejournal.com]

Also, my other hoardeside, which is my main for playing with Del and Beth's group, is Anyada. She's located over on Zangarmarsh (and has already been indoctrinated into the 'Has Candy' guild there. lol)

[http://users.livejournal.com/_geekie_/]

Green, blue, purple - they're quality types of gear, and the names are that color to let you know which is the better. Well, that's not exactly a true answer, it also depends on level of gear, but it's a quick answer.

I play WOW for the lore - the story is amazing, the characters compelling (mostly. Some are Mary Sues or are just poorly drawn, but you get that in any franchise written by multiple people.) As I said before, this upcoming expansion was the one I was waiting on for three years - I love the story of the downfall of Arthas, the people he affected, how they managed to survive and move on, or even fall. (Prince Kael'thas's magic addiction, for example, destroyed him completely as the result of something Arthas did. However, Jaina Proudmoore became a world leader and a powerful mage in her own right after splitting paths from Arthas. So, it's all connected.)

To make a long story short, I play for the lore. Gear is just a minor bonus to me. I'm one of those people that reads quest text. I've sat in inns that have mini-scenes going on between NPCs and watched them over and over. I read inscriptions on statues. I'm such a dork. PVP is a side bit of fun - I always like playing the battle healer, though in the past, I did play a rogue and even an elemental shaman in bgs. Meh. It's a huge game out there.

[silverthorne.livejournal.com]

I read the full texts on my quests too. I may not remember all the details after, but I read em. I'm feeling bad right now for the belfs because Ari's first three quests were, essentially, 'these animals we used to trust are all infected now and we need to thin them out' (Another reason, I think, I want to snag a springpaw lynx for a pet once Ari gets to level ten--I feel bad I had to kill several for a quest! :/).